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  Will this Memorial be our last?

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  they just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.

  most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?

  upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .

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  Half banana

  Not only are the leaders of the JW org always wrong but they base their emotional lather on false premises.

  Jesus never said anything. He is a literary fiction.

  There is no evidence for his existence as a literal man outside of the texts made holy by the Catholic Church in the fourth century.

  There is a precedence for the god-man character portrayed in the Bible in older religions but Mithras is first attributed with the statement “Whoever does not eat my flesh or drink my blood, the same will not be with me in paradise”. Since this was known centuries before Jesus was conjured up, Jesus is therefore a mere copy, a cut and paste version and not the real article (as if there ever was one).

  It’s all a theatrical drama to give the humble and poor something to hope for in the absence of worldly satisfaction.

  Avoid the memorial...unless you go as part of fading strategy!
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  Petition to Revoke Scientology's Tax Exempt Status

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  fyi, if you feel that scientology's tax-exempt status should be revoked, you can sign a white house petition to revoke its tax-exempt status at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status.. i signed the petition even though i have mixed feelings about this petition.

  i would prefer that dangerous cults like scientology be reformed by suspending its tax-exempt status until it makes needed changes and i do not like targeting a specific organization when the whole system should be changed.

  on the other hand this type of action may help to promote debate about revising the tax codes in the us.. i do prefer revising the tax code like i wrote about in revise tax code to protect children from sexual abuse .. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.

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  Half banana

  Robert, why try to reform something (Scientology) which is useless? The WTBTS is another useless enterprise which only fleeces its flock for the perpetuation of its privileged leadership.

  Why not make it a condition for a "charity" to demonstrate that it has material benefits to give to society at large. Not contributions by their own description such as the Borg would claim like "teaching the Bible" but be able to demonstrate practical and financial input to the community's needs, before being classed as a charity. The tax free status should not be granted by an organisation simply calling itself "a religion".

  How can a money grabbing cults like Jehovah's Witnesses claim they are pursuing anything other than their own self-interest?
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  Spiritual manifestations after 1881?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wt dec 1880 (no.

  6) p. 5 "false christs".

  "we have reason for believing that after 1881, there will be wonderful spiritual manifestations.

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  Half banana

  There can be few organisations which can pride themselves with an unbroken record of 100% failure rate in prediction of events in over one hundred and thirty five years.

  I wonder if this accolade should be publicised in the Guinness Book of Records?
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  If the Jehovah's Witnesses were really the Faithful & Discrete Slave active today, they wouldn't be full of Bullshit

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if the watchtower corporation and the jehovah's witnesses were really the faithful & discrete slave active today, they wouldn't be full of bullshit .. this is a logical statement given the history of this religious institute / publishing house.

  i said it before and i'll say it again, that the majority of the doctrines created by the wts were intensionally focused toward enhancing the proliferation of the wts own publications.

  this has been a constant underlining agenda for the wts all throughout the last century, the end of the 19th century and still to this day.

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  Half banana

  Quite right Finklestein.

  If there was a God and if that god had need for humans to mediate between him and humankind and had he foretold that there would be such a group of humans who would represent the mind and wishes of an almighty god, if, if, if... then the WTBTS have done a rotten job doing it. When we consider they have got every last prediction absolutely wrong and have never said anything useful throughout all their existence.

  On the other hand if there was a Devil who would misrepresent God by getting all his statements wrong... then the WTBTS have a good case for being led by the Devil.

  But religion is the politics of fairyland where only the imagination rules. The JW org is just interested in saving its own skin.
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  Has Eternal Life become a carrot?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the insight on the scriptures volume 2 pages 248-249 the society says, "so with obedient mankind, when man's last enemy, death, is brought to nothing, there will be no sin working in their bodies to bring death.

  to time indefinite they will not need to die.

  the insight on the scriptures vol 2, page 1102 -what time indefinite can mean, "however, the hebrew expression 'ohlam' does not in itself mean "forever".

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  Half banana

  When the carrot goes mouldy all the GB can do is beat the donkey harder.
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  Theocracy Is Alive And Well In The US

  by Village Idiot in

  1. social
  2. current

  i sometimes wonder what it would be like to live under a theocracy.

  this article and upcoming nightline interview will give us a clue.. https://gma.yahoo.com/allegations-against-flds-church-former-police-chief-says-173021013--abc-news-topstories.html.

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  Theocracies have religious police...what a joy that would would be...

  Why is it that US citizens are still so wedded to religion? Why still wedded to myth, mysticism and hope instead of reality?
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  My father is a f*****g a*****e

  by Butyoucanneverleave in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is my first post.

  i just had to get that statement off of my chest!

  my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!

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  Half banana

  And the sad thing is that your father has been encouraged to believe that what he is doing is the best possible thing for his family.
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  The Last Cup [please add an ending]

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  good morning, fellow posters and friends:.

  please use your imagination to complete this little tale.

  several endings came to me while drinking my morning cup of coffee on the patio.. thanks.. cc.

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  Half banana

  You dear reader may wonder why...

  I had broken the last commandment: do not be found out. This being 2026 just six years after the great meteor strike, with religious surveillance being complete now for five years, the thought police, considered a jest in the last century had become a reality.

  The seven leaders of the religious cult had turned political and duped the world. They call it God's New Kingdom on Earth... Huh! The giant meteor which landed in central Italy affected the whole world, killing more than half the population mainly in Europe and Asia. Ice and snow fell all over Africa, it rained in the tropical deserts and has been complete drought in Southern USA and most of South America. Floods and droughts in all the wrong places. How could people in this day and age still believe it was a judgement from God? My last coffee.

  I thought I could go undetected but in two hours I will be humanely eliminated at the centre for Religious Justice. It will be a routine show trial with a foregone conclusion. From then it will be all over in fifteen minutes.

  My sabotage plan would have succeeded but for one informer afraid for his life. You can’t blame him, all his family would have to be killed as well when the police elders found out he knew of my scheme. All who dare to think differently to the ruling elite are progressively eliminated. The seven ”Culture Heroes”, as they call themselves, who through psychotic determination, media and mind control, ruthlessly deny the basic needs of humanity. They rule in the name of God with a tyranny unknown to history. My very last coffee.

  The caffeine kicked in and I awoke with a start... If only it would rain!
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  Mind control.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in a recent thread someone mentioned that the wtbts uses mind control techniques.

  do you think this is a conscious ploy?

  if it is it would mean that the leaders of my religion (i am still an active jw) set out consciously to control people.

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  Half banana

  @ smiddy, that all religious governing bodies use the same or similar tactics does not make for complicity between them as if they have the same organic root. As you are alluding, most of them do have a common ancestor and that root is Adventism. Yes Mormons are a different species but just as nutty and demanding of slavish obedience.

  However to just look at these religious groups is to ignore the fact that all undemocratic authority be it religious, parental or dictatorships, go unchecked and use the same systems of reward and penalty, information control etc.

  I don’t think they read up on how to pull the wool over the eyes of the less powerful...it seems to be a human weakness of the insecure in power to exploit underdogs. That is why I suggest the GB do not know they are lying, manipulative, narcissists who consciously use “mind control”... it just comes naturally to them in their delusional role as God's chosen ones.
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  Invitation to be a director

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you had been invited to become one of seven directors of a religious corporation which has a mainly tax exempt annual income of one billion dollars; how would your sense of responsibility to uphold the tradition of office (and therefore your own privileges) affect your moral judgement?.

  for example would you let the corporation fail financially for the sake of pursuing a decision on what you understand to be gods will?.

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  Half banana

  If you had been invited to become one of seven directors of a religious corporation which has a mainly tax exempt annual income of one billion Dollars; how would your sense of responsibility to uphold the tradition of office (and therefore your own privileges) affect your moral judgement?

  For example would you let the corporation fail financially for the sake of pursuing a decision on what you understand to be “God’s will”?